If “Intelligent Design” is / was so intelligent, can you explain some of these human conditions?
Lumbo-sacral disk disease
Prolapsed Uterus
Hemorrhoids
Appendicitis
Inguinal Herniae
Impacted wisdom teeth
Most of these conditions are left over evolutionary defects, such as our 5 coccygeal vertebrae which used to be a tail. Because we now walk upright on a bridge structure (our spine) that was originally designed to go from front legs to back legs and suspend our intestines, uterus, in a sack under the bridge, now walking upright everything is trying to fall out, the disks are now being asked to be columns, etc. etc. Not too intelligent if this was the "design" doncha think?
Thanks for answers, and read more to learn what "Evolution" says. We did not evolve FROM monkeys, but along with them from a common ancestor who has long since died off, and some of its decendants are now people, some are other primates. Blaming everything BAD on the "Devil" is a cop out. Why is this battle thing between god and DEVIL so important, can’t things just happen without any purpose? Earthquakes, floods, droughts, Ice Ages, comet strikes, all had a part in the changes of conditions on earth to which creatures had to either learn to adapt or die. The ones who adapted got to produce young, and their skills and ability got passed on. The others, well they’re now gone and being found by scientists who study ancient rock formations, and paleology.
The point here is not to be a SHEEP, but use the brain we are fortunate to have evolved.
Centuries of breeding is a mere tick on the time scale required for evolution. Dogs are still dogs, true.
Just because the conditions may not have existed to preserve evidence of living creatures to ‘fill in’ the evolutionary lines that existed, does not mean the process in not valid. Nice try. Millenia and time are the key and a few hundred years of human meddling with dogs doesn’t prove much. Dog? Hm, isn’t that what the dyslexic prayed to?
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angie (68)
Ha, he even wired our eyes backwords.
Science has many unexplained observations, questions, doesn’t mean you jump to conclusions.
The lack of a complete fossil record is a testament to how hard it is to find fossils. Not every animal that dies fossilises you know.
Ahem, Why did the perfect designer, design entropy so his designs would get worst? That makes 0 sense. Unless he wants to get rid of you all and start again at some other point, and this is all like growing a garden to him. (for his own amusement)
And Sorry but all currect evidence supports an Old Earth, I know where creo’s get their ‘science’ from, and it isn’t science.
Where does ‘genetics’ state this? Show me a peer reviewed paper on the subject that is accecepted by the scientific community (which is made up of many religions).
Why do you believe the science that agrees with your bible, but not science that doesn’t. It is because of faith, not logic or reasoning, or good science. It is faith, no science.
We are still evolving. Definately.
You can thank the devil and sin for all the physical ailments of man.We did not evolve from monkeys if so why are there still monkeys
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God didn’t create evil
Evil is the absence of good
We avoid god in many areas of our lives and are able to find evil there.
The creation story is closely followed by the Eve and serpent story and the resulting fall of man,
We are no longer dealing with the perfect universe he created. Scientifically it’s called entropy./
These diseases didn’t exist till sin entered into the world.
Ok basically – in creation/intelligent design. All was perfect and since then we been de-volving – mutations loss of genetic information…
A wolf (the original dog) contains the genes nec. to create all the breeds of dogs in existance. But information has been lost to breed these dogs- and often have more genetic diseases and problems because they are in-bred. But even with centuries of controlled breeding, They are still dogs they haven’t evolved into anything else.
Creation allows for changes within a ‘kind’ or ‘species’ just not in common ancestors (eg. Canine always canine, Human always human, monkey always monkey, although there have been changes within the groups over time there is NO common ancestor).
The lack of fossil evidence for the common ancestors or transition forms is one major flaw in the theory that we all have a common ascestor. Also the fact that even tiny changes in appearance often requres many mutations, yet life is so complex, it is illogical. Its often quoted that chimps share 97% of human DNA. Ok so thats 97% of 3000 000 000 base pairs which is an awful lot of mutations. Considering mutations are 99.9% of the time harmful or loss of ‘information’ not creating useful new ‘information’
Those conditions you mention are not left over eveolutionary defects or a lot more people would suffer from it (all of us probably!)
(also guys that believe in Creation, please try to learn what evolution is – asking why monkeys still exist shows lack of understanding what evolution actually is..)
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You don’t know the value of being healthy if you don’t get sick, and you don’t value beauty till you see ugly. I hope this explain. The wisdom of our creator is beyond our knowledge. I hope you download the movie about respiration from the link above and see the intelligent design. Nature is not so smart.
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The first human pair were created perfect in all ways.They were designed to live forever in a beautiful garden paradise.They were to fill the earth with righteous perfect beings and cultivate the earth and live for eternity.
That was God’s purpose.However in His loving wisdom,he endowed not only the angels in the heaven but also man with the gift of free will.
As a result the angel that became Satan decided to use his free will for bad and tricked Adam and Eve into disobeying their Creator.Romans 6:23 states-"the wages sin pays is death".As a result of that act of disobedience the first human pair were not only evicted from the paradise garden but also began to age and eventually die.
So each generation thereafter grew less and less perfect,more and more inperfect and their lifespans started decreasing,to what we presently have today – a life span of 80 years (if we are unlucky enough) filled with arthritis,heart disease,blood clots,poor eyesight etc etc.
However,Jehovah God will still fulfill his orginal purpose for man and for the earth.
He has done this by allowing his only hegotten Son to die on our behalf to" buy back" what Adam has lost ie everlasting life and very soon Our Loving Heavenly Father will usher in His new system of things and destroy all wickedness on the earth.So once again the rightous and faithfull will have a wonderful satisfying life ahead.
None of those difficulties would be as challenging to explain as the existence of George W Bush!
I suppose the one angle you could take – in the larger anthropic sense – is that its the destination that’s the design, not the steps en route. If one accepts some of the ideas of the anthropic principle (the teleological premise), then one has to accept the universe seems surprisingly – no – impossibly well designed for life to emerge.
That being the case, the course of evolution does not really need to be looked at all that differently than a building. A building is not designed perfectly either – thousands of years of cultural ideas regarding aesthetics remove most buildings from being perfectly designed, and similarly a building’s design shows artifacts of earlier human cultures.
It really is no different with evolution. If evolution itself is a design intent of the universe, with certain destinations in mind (i.e. increasing complexity) then you will of course always expect certain transitional forms (which in fact all living things really are) looking transitional!
man was created perfect. according to the laws of entropy, we would actually be in a process of devolution, making us more susceptible to disease.
The design and the Designer are both quite intelligent, and were perfect. The problem is that atrophy or decay entered into the universe, bringing all these things with them.
If I give you a perfect sword of finest Damascan steel, and you put it in your swimming pool, it will eventually rust. Is it the fault of the Creator or the posessor?
Evolution doesn’t work for three reasons:
1) Current accurate evidence of the age of the earth/universe points to a young earth/universe.
3) Genetics still states that at a genetic level, evolution of one species into another is impossible. Every gene length and order that is here today began that way.
3) Even ignoring good science and genetics, mathematicly speaking, at the very minimum, it would take 10 to the 128th power seconds of time for life to begin ‘spontaneously’, and even by the theory of evolution’s own claims, that is over 40 times longer than the most liberal evolutionist says the age of the universe is. Mathematics declares it as impossible when it exceeds 1 in 10 to the 64th power attempts.
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Hi,
yes u are right that we did not evolve from monkey but along with them with common ancestors. Evolution itself is the product of two opposing forces: processes that constantly introduce variation, and processes that make variants either become more common or rare.Keep exchanging your ideas and information . Thanks for sharing.